I loved Elronn's mini-rant about training courses that turn out to be big group hugs and "healing for healers" exercises. Hey Elronn do you want to come visit my sweat lodge sometime? We can practice re-birthing on each other and have a good old time.
On a serious note, I totally agree with the thoughts about avoiding public demonstrations of therapeutic techniques that involve "uncovering". I witnessed a demo where the volunteer was carelessly led into revealing that a specific, identifiable individual fondled her in a very ambiguous way as a child (touched in a way that made her "feel funny").
Kind of like how Elronn described his experience watching a similarly irresponsible demo, it was only AFTER the demo and I thought about it, that I realized how terribly unfair it was, and how it would have been perfectly legitimate grounds for a civil lawsuit from the person who was defamed.
Should hypnosis instructors do demonstrations of therapeutic work live in class?
Absolutely. You know, when I went through the police academy they told me that I had to be sprayed with pepper spray. . . to prove that it works. I told them that I was sure that it worked just fine and I didn't need to do that. Didn't work!
Hypnotherapy is sooooo much more wonderful than that. . . what a great gift for your students! Give them a $100 session for free!
Should hypnosis schools have students practice therapeutic hypnosis on each other?
Depends on their stage of training. That's all.
Yes, I would love to come to your sweat lodge... So long as you make sure to have plenty of tarps on hand;) Then we lead each other around blind folded and become even better at our distance healing technique!
Also on a serious note, I think it's great that we have an arena to talk about these things freely. Hopefully we can have some good things happen in the field as a result opening this can!
Fully agree with your ethical take on the uncovering process in the classroom situation. Whether it is classroom audience or video audience later, the “client” could certainly be crushed emotionally, exactly as you said and there is no way I would do this in the classroom. Whether or not it is conducted on a volunteer in front of his/her peers , there is no way of telling where it will go.
Perhaps the depth of the work between classmates could be ok so long as it is tightly controlled, i.e. only showing superficial therapy but then discussing the forward-leading path.
Totally agree with both you and Elronn – not professional, exposure to peers with no obvious therapeutic benefit, almost voyeurism.
The mind may adjust to the “new knowing” but if that particular subject is of embarrassment then it should not be done and if this is totally “off the cuff” at the time then one would not know what is to be discovered. Fully agree with Elronn, “why am I here? To discuss my personal stuff – I would have gone to a personal trainer etc.
Agree with Elronn, irrespective of class size, whether or not you are with people you know etc, the bottom line is that if the hypnosis is going anywhere then there is no way of knowing what will be uncovered, so don’t touch.
Ted, UK. And incidentally, I have just bought your book “Hypnosis and Hypnotherapy” with Gerald Kein, Page 80 so far and enjoying it, getting my wheels turning! Thank you. Sad that I am unable likely ever to meet you.
Hi Cal and Elronn,
I agree with you in some ways. I`ve witnessed a couple sessions with personal information revealed and I`ve been in a class where there were several people who abreacted including myself while doing regression work with another student. Certainly you do not know how you are going to react when you do the work even if you think it is not a big issue. My concern is the quality of instruction on how to deal with these situations or how to avoid them.
My question is how do students learn the techniques if they don`t see them being used or have a chance to work with them before they start working with clients?
Many people who have taken hypnosis training lack confidence in their ability to work with clients because they don't think they have enough skill or experience with the techniques.
Not sure why the idea of someone going to a personal coach or trainer was mentioned for help with personal issues. If a person is taking a hypnosis training class to help people with hypnosis why would he or she go to a coach or trainer instead of a hypnotherapist?
Steve R. says
I loved Elronn's mini-rant about training courses that turn out to be big group hugs and "healing for healers" exercises. Hey Elronn do you want to come visit my sweat lodge sometime? We can practice re-birthing on each other and have a good old time.
On a serious note, I totally agree with the thoughts about avoiding public demonstrations of therapeutic techniques that involve "uncovering". I witnessed a demo where the volunteer was carelessly led into revealing that a specific, identifiable individual fondled her in a very ambiguous way as a child (touched in a way that made her "feel funny").
Kind of like how Elronn described his experience watching a similarly irresponsible demo, it was only AFTER the demo and I thought about it, that I realized how terribly unfair it was, and how it would have been perfectly legitimate grounds for a civil lawsuit from the person who was defamed.
Brett says
Should hypnosis instructors do demonstrations of therapeutic work live in class?
Absolutely. You know, when I went through the police academy they told me that I had to be sprayed with pepper spray. . . to prove that it works. I told them that I was sure that it worked just fine and I didn't need to do that. Didn't work!
Hypnotherapy is sooooo much more wonderful than that. . . what a great gift for your students! Give them a $100 session for free!
Should hypnosis schools have students practice therapeutic hypnosis on each other?
Depends on their stage of training. That's all.
Regards to all!
Brett
lydia says
Hey, I get the inside joke 😉
Elronn Ferguson says
Thanks Steve!
Yes, I would love to come to your sweat lodge... So long as you make sure to have plenty of tarps on hand;) Then we lead each other around blind folded and become even better at our distance healing technique!
Also on a serious note, I think it's great that we have an arena to talk about these things freely. Hopefully we can have some good things happen in the field as a result opening this can!
Ted says
Fully agree with your ethical take on the uncovering process in the classroom situation. Whether it is classroom audience or video audience later, the “client” could certainly be crushed emotionally, exactly as you said and there is no way I would do this in the classroom. Whether or not it is conducted on a volunteer in front of his/her peers , there is no way of telling where it will go.
Perhaps the depth of the work between classmates could be ok so long as it is tightly controlled, i.e. only showing superficial therapy but then discussing the forward-leading path.
Totally agree with both you and Elronn – not professional, exposure to peers with no obvious therapeutic benefit, almost voyeurism.
The mind may adjust to the “new knowing” but if that particular subject is of embarrassment then it should not be done and if this is totally “off the cuff” at the time then one would not know what is to be discovered. Fully agree with Elronn, “why am I here? To discuss my personal stuff – I would have gone to a personal trainer etc.
Agree with Elronn, irrespective of class size, whether or not you are with people you know etc, the bottom line is that if the hypnosis is going anywhere then there is no way of knowing what will be uncovered, so don’t touch.
Ted, UK. And incidentally, I have just bought your book “Hypnosis and Hypnotherapy” with Gerald Kein, Page 80 so far and enjoying it, getting my wheels turning! Thank you. Sad that I am unable likely ever to meet you.
Lorraine says
Hi Cal and Elronn,
I agree with you in some ways. I`ve witnessed a couple sessions with personal information revealed and I`ve been in a class where there were several people who abreacted including myself while doing regression work with another student. Certainly you do not know how you are going to react when you do the work even if you think it is not a big issue. My concern is the quality of instruction on how to deal with these situations or how to avoid them.
My question is how do students learn the techniques if they don`t see them being used or have a chance to work with them before they start working with clients?
Many people who have taken hypnosis training lack confidence in their ability to work with clients because they don't think they have enough skill or experience with the techniques.
Not sure why the idea of someone going to a personal coach or trainer was mentioned for help with personal issues. If a person is taking a hypnosis training class to help people with hypnosis why would he or she go to a coach or trainer instead of a hypnotherapist?