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Hypnosis Training Video #363: How to Overcome the Need for Hypnosis Scripts & Make Your Hypnosis Sessions More Effective (Transcription)

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Cal: Hello, everybody! Cal Banyan here on Cal Banyan’s Hypnosis, Etc. If you’re watching this video anywhere except calbanyan.com, you want to go there right now ’cause on calbanyan.com we’ve got additional text, we got additional links and graphics, so just make this little video a little more valuable for you. Plus, we also have a complete transcript of this video for you. So I mean, you just can’t do any better than that except that I have a co-host today, Brenda Titus, which makes it even better. I mean, those all Cal episodes, those are kinda, eh, they’re alright, but, when I can have like Brenda and Meredith and Celeste, these ladies, they just add a whole new depth of quality to what we’re doing. And Brenda, in addition to being a one percenter hypnotist, that meaning among the best of the best of the profession, she has got a degree, or two degrees actually, one of those a Masters degree, so she’s so smart. She’s got all that and smart too, and she’s the most giving and sharing hypnotists I think I know. How you’re doing, Brenda?

Brenda: I’m doing great, Cal. Thank you so much for having me, and I have to say that I give because I have a great mentor who also gives. Cal just always amazes me with the work that he does, you know, providing these free podcasts, information to people, providing resources for the people who have gone through his training so that you’re never alone. It just means so much, and I am so happy to be here and be able to help people with this incredible tool that I learned from Cal, which is the 5-PATH® hypnotherapy process as well as 7th Path Self-Hypnosis®. They just have been able to help so many people, and I’m so thrilled to be a part of this movement to really bring hypnosis out into the world and be able to help people in just incredible ways. I’m very honored to be here, so thank you, Cal, so much for having me back today.

Cal: It is so great. And you know, it’s an honor just to be part of this movement and you find out who the real generous people are, like on Hypnosis.org, one of our websites, that’s kind of our big general hypnosis website, we’ve got an Ezine and I invite you all to go there and see who’s been giving. We’ve got people who have just, you know, Celeste has written articles, many articles. You’ve written articles, and Erica, oh, what’s Erica’s last name? Brand new writer, and we’ve invited a couple more people and through the years, you’d be surprised how many people have just given to the profession through that Ezine and all those articles are archived there, you’d just be amazed. Isn’t that right, Brenda?

Brenda: Oh yes, you know what? And Erica, she started her first one right out of the gate, was so good and so helpful, and you know, those Ezine articles are just always so, just gems of things that you can take and help build your own practice and your own skills, but also to be able to share them with other people so they can see the value of hypnosis to be able to help people as well.

Cal: You know as we talk about that, I’m thinking about, boy, what a wonderful time to be alive. I mean, the information age and you know what our last two podcasts were about? Really about New Year’s resolutions and what you were going to do differently underlining the word “Do”. And, so I think the most successful people at this time in history are the people that balance the information age with the implementation age. If you take that information and implementation, then you’re just going to be doing it, doing it, doing it, and it’ll all come back to you in the best way possible, right?

Brenda: Absolutely, and that is a great intro into what we’re going to talk about because you know, we’ve spent a couple of episodes with that new year energy, and I wanted to talk a little bit about this idea of working smarter and not harder. So one of the great resources that Cal and Maureen provide here through the Banyan Hypnosis Center is that we have community message boards. And, so very oftentimes, you know, a graduate, especially somebody who’s a little bit newer, maybe will send a message in, and they’ll start the introduction with, you know, “I’m seeing somebody and they have this issue”, and they’ll go into all of this detail about this issue and you know, whatever kind of information, and then they’ll finish with, “So I need a script. What am I going to do?” So, I wanted to talk a little bit about what that first thought should, not necessarily should, but where I go in my brain with that. So Cal, I wanted to ask you to start out, you know, when people come and see you, what do you do to prepare? Do you get a script together and get yourself geared up, or? Tell us about that.

Cal: Well, I do a very long complex process of preparing for each client–not. I don’t do any preparation because I have 5-PATH®, I know what I’m going to do with them, and then they’re going to tell me, with their intake paperwork and with their pre-hypnosis interview, everything I need to know. So gosh, I don’t have script paralysis. Some people out there, it’s like, “Oh, I can’t even do this work because what if I need it?” They’re not even going to start doing the work, they’re not going to implement what they have learned so far until they have got 14 or 15 script books. And you know what? You just don’t need them. And I was just talking to you about that before. And do you remember what I was saying?

Brenda: Yes, yes. We talked about writing scripts on the fly and the transition from our session.

Cal: Yeah, and then. Okay, let me just take it from here.

Brenda: Sorry, Cal.

Cal: Okay, well, cause I’m, you know, let me just, you take off. Do what you’re going to do.

Brenda: No.

Cal: No? Okay. Everybody’s starting to find out that these are totally unrehearsed and totally unedited. And let me just tell you what I do. Every session is going to have some direct suggestion work in it. Every session of 5-PATH®, phase one used to be called the direct suggestion phase, which after a while, I realized that really every session of every phase of 5-PATH®, which had five phases, duh, has got direct suggestion. But, we do it in a really powerful way, and it’s not, please don’t take it, like if I was to do a stop smoking session, I would grab my old stop smoking script. If I was going to do a pain management session, I would do, I would go to my tried and true pain management script. But 98, 97 percent of the time, I would never use a script. Now, my intake paperwork, I say what are you coming in for, and then I’m going to have a benefits form, you know, what are the benefits that you would expect to obtain by making this change? For example, they stop smoking, they get rid of the stress of having to worry about cigarettes, maybe feelings of guilt, maybe being irritated they can’t smoke in the restaurant. Whatever it is, whatever the benefits for that individual is. If it’s getting over a fear, then what’s the benefits of getting over that fear? If it’s getting over a bad habit, what’s the benefits of overcoming that bad habit? If it’s better performance at work or in a sport, what is the benefit in that?

Then I’m going to commence with my 5-PATH® work. Now the first phase is preparation, testing, and convincing. Generally, after I do that, I have time to get into my age regression work. But, if I didn’t, then I would simply, in hypnosis, tell them because you’ve allowed yourself to go into hypnosis and experience this state, you’re now going to be able to accept these suggestions. And, I basically tell them that they now can do whatever they came in for. In other words, if they came in to stop smoking, you are now a nonsmoker. Okay, if they came in for being less stressed when they speak, I’m going to say now you’re going to be able to just feel a little more comfortable, more in control, more in charge when you speak to groups. And I just basically, in several different ways, be inspired by the way I interact with that person in the pre-hypnosis interview, talking to them, getting an idea of what they’re like, I will just in a few different ways tell them that they’re now going to have what they came in for and weave in the benefits. For example, you’re now free from smoking. It doesn’t matter to you, you don’t care about it anymore, you’re now in control, and because you’re now a nonsmoker, benefit number one. That’s right, benefit number one, that’s ‘cause why? Because you’ve made up your mind to be a nonsmoker. Benefit number two, and I would just, my strategy is to find out why they came in, find out what the benefits are, and then weave those together in a way that makes sense, given my experience with the individual. Now, that’s in phase one.

Phase two, three, four, and five, if I need to go to five, which I usually don’t. Those are all insight-based techniques, which means they are going to have an epiphany, an “aha” moment, something is going to change. It’s most easily understood with the age regression example. If I bring up the fear, if they came in for a fear, and I follow it back, I time tunnel back to the beginning, and then what we do is do the informed child work, we take the adult aspect of the client back to before this event happened. Because how many times have we said, “Boy, I wish I would’ve known then what I know now.” And here’s the amazing thing. With age regression hypnosis, you can know exactly then what you know now. And we help to get the right information to that aspect of themselves that was before the event, we give them the information that they need to hear so they can go through that event without being negatively affected by it. Then, that’s reinforced by going through some subsequent events. I don’t want to get into age regression too much because this podcast isn’t on age regression. But they’re going to have an insight. Then what I’m going to do is a segue, I will, towards the end of that session. I would’ve done that, finding the initial sensitizing event, giving them the information they need, also called the inform child work, or the informed child technique. Then I’m going to bring them to the end of the session and say, “Now that you know whatever it was that that child needed to know to get through that event, whatever that was”, I’ll say, “Now that you know that, you’re going to be able to accept these suggestions more powerfully than ever before.” That’s right, now that you know that, you’ve changed how you feel about that inside, from fear to safety and security for example. You’re going to be able to suggest these suggestions more powerfully than ever before, and once again, I tell them that they are now going to be able to do or feel whatever they came in to my office to do or feel. And then I follow that with the benefits.

So I very, very, rarely go to a script anymore. Inside of the client is everything that we need to have, and the client knows what I need to tell them. I need to know what change they want to make, and I need to know what those benefits are. And with that, I can put together the direct suggestion portion. I’m going to put a link down below the podcast on writing hypnosis scripts on the fly, which basically means you don’t have a script, but you put the suggestions together. What do you want to add to that?

Brenda: Thank you, Cal, so much. That was exactly the direction that I really wanted to go in this episode, was to explain that part about don’t worry about a script. Don’t get so focused, and obviously, there are a couple of things that, you know, you want to have laid out. But overall, the work is what you’re going to do with that age regression, with those forgiveness sessions, and then transitioning. So a lot of your scripting is on the fly, literally being there with your client and bringing about, what are they bringing to the table and then bringing it back to them as they’ve made their shifts and their changes. So work harder, not smarter. Don’t keep pouring all over the place trying to find scripts. You know, one of the things that I do, I have a stock. If I’m not sure what else I’m going to do, I use actually from Cal’s patter scripts book, I use a confident self-esteem script because pretty much everybody, is going to fit very, very, deeply into what they really want to do. So a lot of times, in session one, unless I really want to focus on a specific smoking issue or food issue or something very, very, specific, I will bring that out, and I had someone who came in and saw me a couple of weeks ago and that is what we did for session one. We did our self-esteem script and she, before we ever even did true age regression work, she said it was life changing.

Just that script. I believe in that script so much, and so I don’t use a lot of scripts other than that because I believe so much in 5-PATH® that really, that’s really the direction I want to go. So kind of our answer for now, especially, is: don’t worry so much about scripts. Work smarter, have a system in place. Utilize, especially if you aren’t familiar with 5-PATH®, look into that because I never have to stop and think about what am I going to do with this person ’cause I know what my answer is. I’m going to do 5-PATH®, and it is amazing. Really life-changing for people, and it does require some thinking on the fly. I’m very actively engaged with my clients in the moment, but I’m not working 5 hours in advance preparing for those sessions because I know what I’m going to do when the time comes that they come. So, thank you for giving us the opportunity to talk a little bit more about that, Cal, and now I can refer people back to this session anytime somebody says, “You got a script for that?” I can remind them about this episode, because Cal, you said everything that we needed to hear. I got add a little bit more so thank you so much for this opportunity to talk about that and have a system. Work smarter, not harder, and you’re going to love the work that you can do to help people.

Cal: Alright, thank you so much. And I’ll squeeze a little something in, we also have the universal script, which is really the non-script ones, you’ll understand the principles of the script. You can rip it up, throw it away because it’s in there, perfectly customizable for probably about 98 percent of your needs. Alright, that’s it! Thank you. You have the best year ever. I’m going to have Brenda back for one more podcast and then, well, gosh, we’ll just keep on rolling and doing it and doing it. And I’m thinking about, pretty soon we’re going to have 365 podcasts, you know what that means? That means every single day of the year for a whole year, you can watch or listen to one of these podcasts. That’s amazing, what an accomplishment. A whole year’s worth of them. Alright, hope to see you in class, hope to see you at Solid Gold weekend in February, class is coming up the end of January, just look on this website and all my schedules here. That’s it, I’m out of breath this was so exciting. Cal Banyan, signing off.

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