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Hypnosis Training Video Podcast #220: Incentives for Referrals? Should Hypnotists Who Smoke Offer Smoking Cessation? Etc.

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Incentives for Referrals? Should Hypnotists Who Smoke Offer Smoking Cessation? Etc.

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In this weeks’ episode of Cal Banyan’s Hypnosis etc., Elronn and I ask some interesting questions about how hypnotists should conduct their practice. What do you think about what we have to say? You may have your own opinion on the subject, so join the conversation and leave a comment for us below.

Here are some of the questions we ask:

  • Should Hypnotists offer clients incentives for referrals?

  • Should hypnotists who smoke offer smoking cessation sessions?

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8 Reader Comments to Hypnosis Training Video Podcast #220: Incentives for Referrals? Should Hypnotists Who Smoke Offer Smoking Cessation? Etc.

  1. Adriana April 23, 2011 at 2:36 AM

    Hi Cal, Elronn
    I love Saturday mornings here in the UK drinking my coffee and laughing along with your podcasts.
    Todays smoking subject, Well I think its all about the hypnotherapist doing their self work. Which is why Cal’s training is so great because you learn 7th Path Self Hypnosis. If a hypnotherapist was smoking because it was a distraction from an unpleasant feeling then that’s not walking the talk. However if it was a personal social choice, then it would be like not wearing your favorite biker jacket to the office. Its not a professional image to smell of smoke or have yellow fingers.
    I am wondering if the hypnotist may need to mention they enjoy the odd social cigerette, (out of choice not nescessity) to the client in the pretalk just in case the client bumps into them socially (whilst say the hypnotherapist is drinking a pint happily making smoke rings with a Lambert & Butler king size or maybe even apreciating a good Scotch and cigar). Or perhaps if the work was done correctly the client would’nt need to go out and buy a pack of cigerettes after encountering such a shocking sight:)
    Best Wishes Adriana

  2. OM April 23, 2011 at 2:14 PM

    wow just watch your vidcast #220 and you are two great speakers. Elronn is young and intelligent. Hope time and the great spirit will help him become deeper.
    wow really great quality stuff content and presentation. thank you
    OM – student of hypno PNL – france

  3. Elronn April 24, 2011 at 12:08 AM

    Thanks Adriana,

    It certainly would be an interesting thing to see your hypnotist smoking away after you are quit yourself.  I can just imagine it: “Hey, what are you doing here?”…. “No, wait! What are YOU doing here?!”  

    In an ideal world we would all be a living example of the ailments we try to help with, within reason.

    Glad you enjoy Cal’s wit and my exaggerated sense of humor in the morning;)

    All the very best!


  4. Cal April 24, 2011 at 9:39 AM

    Hello Adriana – Thanks for leaving a comment. And that Elronn guy – he’s pretty good. I couldn’t do these programs without him… Well, I could but it just wouldn’t be as much fun. 😉

    Keep studying. Keep doing your 7th Path.

    With you on the Path,

  5. Elronn April 25, 2011 at 10:48 PM

    Best line of the show: “anything that’s an incentive that would incentivise someone to action”… Ha!


  6. Steve R, April 26, 2011 at 8:26 AM

    hello guys, much respect to both of you for being willing to stimulate thought by sharing your honest opinions and thereby opening up yourselves to criticism. i think a lot of blogs or podcasts at your level are content to coast along with standard motivational fluff.

    re: referrals, i used to be more in elronn’s camp, figuring incentivizing referrals was just another marketing tool that just needed to be done with sensitivity and taste, but eventually i’ve come to the conclusion that incentives are not congruent with a healthy hypnotist-client relationship. maybe if i was doing group sessions or doing “headphone hypnosis” (stick em in a room and play a CD for them), then it would not seem as “icky” because it would not interfere with the intense personal rapport that should be there with individual work. But i think it does interfere when there is something added to the relationship like “I want you to tell all your friends and so I’ll pay you.” I think that ickyness is not just the ickyness of doing something constructive outside of one’s comfort zone, but the ickyness of wanting your clients to act as a commission sales force — and people don’t like the idea of being salesmen within their social networks! I once received a note from a client who said she would tell all her friends about it, but she did not want the “free gift” I was offering at the time for referrals, because she just wanted the chance to help others. That made me think, if I pay people for referrals, that is kind of taking away their chance to feel good about themselves for doing something altruistic — that loss of potential feeling good would not be compensated by a gift card to Barnes and Noble.

    Anyway, aside from them paying me the agreed upon fee for service, I don’t want anything from my clients, except for them to a) get hypnotized, and b) get better.

    This reminds me, I passed along a few referrals to a hypnotist in my area who was just starting out, if I thought they’d be more convenient or better suited for a prospect. Never got a note or message of acknowledgement, which didn’t really bother me, I was not doing it for the “gee thanks”. But later on I got a request from them asking if I would agree to keep sending them referrals and they would pay me for each one. For some reason this seriously demotivated me to send further referrals and I haven’t since. Human behavior is funny, isn’t it?

  7. Zoe April 28, 2011 at 1:11 PM


    What an interesting pod cast! Great presentation, and both personalities work great along side one another.

    Interesting subject. I agree with not over-marketing yourselves to clients, all though perhaps there are subtle ways. I recall once, years ago visiting a local hypnotist for stress, and the first thing I noticed was the huge banner across her car! After the initial induction session, I was shuffled off home with a cd to listen to. A calming cd, to help me de-stress away my worries. It began with a very soft hypnotic voice telling me I could buy more cd’s on her website (www…), followed by her telephone number, rates etc, all repeated twice in a soft and hypnotic tone.

    Needless to say, I didn’t return. I agree with Elron, that there are ‘ways’ of offering deals.

    With regards to the smoking, I would say ‘hmmmm.. it could swing both ways!’ It ‘could’ show confidence that the hypnotist is happy with his choice of life style, and has nothing to prove… he/she is confident in their abilities. OR… it could show weakness. I think perhaps it depends on the person.

    Should you be rummaging through your lambert and Butler packet, desperately, or watching the clock for your next cigarette break… with a nervous twitch, lol, I think that may deter clients 😉

    Great Podcast, interesting and amusing!

  8. toshie May 1, 2011 at 12:08 PM

    Personally If I were to see a Hypnotist who was overweight…I would not have confidence in him or her.
    I know all about the wounded healer syndrome, however,
    I feel if they can’t get their sh*t together, how are they going to hypnotize me to get my sh*t together?
    One of my NGH certified teacher was quite overweight and it really got in my way.. So much so that I don’t even practice hypnosis anymore.
    Healer heal thyself first..

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