Cal Banyan: Hello everybody, Cal Banyan here. Cal Banyan’s Hypnosis, Etc. and I’m back with Brenda Titus. She’s been my co-host for a little while now, but we haven’t had her around for, I don’t know a lot, because she was doing some things and we had some training going on. I got to squeeze Erika Flint in and so she’s back. She said she’s a little bit rusty but this is our second podcast that we’re recording together since she came back and she doesn’t seem to be rusty at all. Oh, let me tell you what. This is part two of probably a little secret technique that too many hypnotists are not doing. This is one thing and if you watch the first one, you know what it is. If you don’t, then go back to the podcast before this. We’ll put a link right below, so that you can get it in order, but there is something that probably 80% of the hypnotists are not doing that if they did do it, their hypnosis practice would flourish and their ability to do better hypnosis would improve.
They’d enjoy doing hypnosis more than ever and I just think it would be a great thing. Let me tell you about Brenda Titus, besides being my co-host, she’s got a Bachelor’s degree in sociology. She’s got a Master’s degree in criminology. She’s got experience in the talk therapy world doing rape, crisis intervention, and then she switched over to the world of hypnosis and she’s been going like a skyrocket ever since, contributing to the profession, helping her peers, and just making a name for herself. How are you doing Brenda?
Brenda Titus: I’m doing great Cal. Thank you so much for having me here today. I’m thrilled to be able to talk about this topic with everybody. First, let me introduce you to Cal. So Cal is the hypnosis celebrity. He brings up this weekly podcast every single week for years and years. He’s got all these wonderful resources to be able to get out there. He’s been on TV. He’s been on radio, talking about the profession, sharing information about The Secret Language of Feelings, sharing information about hypnosis. He is a trainer of some of the top people in the profession, teaching, speaking engagements, seeing clients, making public appearances. He’s the developer of 5-PATH® hypnotherapy, which I use with pretty much all of my clients as well as 7-Path Self–hypnosis®.
The developer of The Secret Language of Feelings, really getting it out there and such a support to people who are new to the profession, people who are out there really trying to make a difference in this world, bringing hypnosis out there, and I’m just so thrilled to be here and have him in my life as kind of one of those mentors and guides as well as my teacher and just thrilled to be here to share in this podcast in helping other people learn how they can advance the profession, especially advancing themselves in the profession by better hypnotists. So that’s what we’re going to talk a little bit about today, Cal. How we can be better hypnotists?
Cal Banyan: That’s what it’s all about, isn’t it? You know, as you were talking about my background and stuff and I was thinking, “Wow, I wished I would have this stuff available to me when I was just getting started and my rise in the profession is nothing compared to your rise in the profession.” Think about that. It took me years to get known and here now you’re known all around the world. That’s pretty cool.
Brenda Titus: Actually it’s pretty amazing and I had an incredible amount of gratitude for that and an incredible amount of appreciation for being able to be here and to be able to help other people and so, thank you so much Cal, for letting me have this incredible opportunity.
Cal Banyan: You know, when you go to the National Guild of Hypnotists Convention; you’re going to be a hypnotist celebrity.
Brenda Titus: Yeah, I’m actually meeting with Erika tomorrow to talk about some things. I need to remind her about that because it is wonderful to go out to the convention and people know who I am, which really is a pretty neat thing, so thank you all for watching every week and I really hope to be able to share some incredible information today that is going to help you advance your ability to be a part of this profession, so what do you think, Cal?
Cal Banyan: I think we should get on with it.
Brenda Titus: All right. So, this series actually started because I went and experienced hypnosis, hypnotherapy for a range of 5-PATH for myself. I met a friend last year at the convention and we hit it off. So I had been seeing her for the last few months and so I really wanted to share that incredible experience of what it’s like to go through this process as the client because it absolutely has helped my business so much. So last week, we kind of talked about why would one of us want to go out and experience sessions, so go back and check that out if you haven’t already seen it. Today we’re going to experience the literal process of what it’s like to be a client for yourself and a little bit, we’re going to talk a little bit about experiencing direct suggestion for yourself as well.
Then, as we come along, we’ll keep talking about some additional processes with that, but, I definitely want to start. I think I use in my notes so many times, “Wow” so that’s what I have to say to start things off, Cal, “Wow.” Even though I saw a hypnotist, she was a 5-PATHer; so much of what she does is very much in line with what I do even though she’s more experienced than myself. Literally being in the client’s seat changed a lot for me. It gave me a lot of understanding about what my clients go through to experience coming to see me and it gave me a lot of compassion and it gave me a lot of really being able to help them. So before I start in what I learned Cal, do you have anything that you’d like to share about that?
Cal Banyan: Yeah, I kind of talked about one and talked about as far as why people should go in and that kind of thing, so let’s go for it.
Brenda Titus: Excellent, all right. Well, today I wanted to start with literally that literal process of becoming a client and how incredibly valuable it is for every hypnotist to really experience what that is like, to literally step into the shoes of being a client. It’s so important because we need to remember when they call us and they’re ready to come in and see us; they are ready to change their lives. As you all know, for some people, they’ve tried everything. They’ve tried some talk therapy. They’ve maybe gone to this kind of doctor, that kind of doctor. They’ve lived their lives with whatever issue it is that they’re coming to see you for and finally they said, “You know, I’m going to give hypnosis a try,” and then they decided that they were going to give you a try. So being on that client side of things, you develop a whole level of empathy and compassion for your clients because as you know, first there is a realization as we say that you need help.
So for some people, that could be a variety of things like we talked about last week, the realization. I think I’m really going to invest my time, my effort and money in experiencing this for myself. So then, of course, there is the literal process of reaching out for help and deciding if you have that time and that money and ability to invest in sessions. So really, like I said, experiencing that for yourself because like I said, even for me, I have to carve out a bunch of time to be able to do this and our clients have to do that as well. So really stepping into those shoes made a very big difference for me about making that commitment. Commitment for myself as well as then ultimately that commitment for my business and then I learned a lot about what it’s like to really sit down and get yourself ready to go to sessions.
That really helped me understand every once in a while how clients kind of come to my first session and bring me their list of, well this is what’s going on and this is what I think the problem is and I’ve actually had a few clients who come and brought me literally a letter, pages long about their history and what have you. Then I experienced it for myself and you know what I did, Cal?
Cal Banyan: What’s that?
Brenda Titus: I did pretty much what all my clients do [laughs]. I think I wrote like a 3-page long email to Stephanie saying, “Well, there’s this and this and this, and this,” and I kind of laugh because I know that is very helpful, but as we all know, there is what the client thinks they’re coming to see us for and then there is what’s really going on beneath the surface. So it really makes me really understand my clients a lot better to realize, “Oh, I did that, didn’t I? Okay. Good to know,” but also really sitting down and stopping and saying, “Why am I doing this?” Really narrowing down that, why you’re coming for sessions, what the benefits are. So that’s actually what I really wanted to talk about, just that step before you ever even show up, to really experience that, so that you can have that understanding of what your clients are going through.
So I wanted to share a little bit about some of those things that I had learned because going through it for myself, I really grasp, “Oh, okay, this is what they’re going and I have a lot better ability to explain that process now to prepare my clients to see them by having experienced that.” So anything you’d like to add, Cal, before I move to the next step?
Cal Banyan: Are you going to say it when you get more towards the end of this, you’re going to say now, I’m curious about what actually changed in how you’re doing sessions because of this.
Brenda Titus: Well, it’s all encompassing, quite frankly. By experiencing the entire process for myself, I understand it that much better. So literally being in the client’s shoe for me and I’ve seen this with other clients that other hypnotists that I have worked with that has helped them understand being in the shoes of the clients. So it’s literally an all-encompassing kind of thing and I think I can expand on that a little bit as we move to this next part, which is experiencing direct suggestion for yourself because I’m kind of going through like similarly to how we would do a 5-PATH® process, so I want to talk a little bit about just the literal stepping in to the shoes of being a client by preparing. Now let’s talk a little bit about direct suggestion.
So I know that coming up at the convention, Cal is going to be having a talk about the universal script or sometimes we call it the high road, low road and I know Cal spent some time in podcast episode 167 talking extensively about that, but, I want to talk a little bit about that for just a couple of minutes, because as we said, until you experience some of these things and experience what it really means for you, you don’t really necessarily always realize the impact that that’s making on the clients and I’ve done lots of high load, low road. I’ve done plenty of universal scripts with my clients for a variety of reasons and it definitely has that capacity to really hit different notes for people. Then there’s being in the hypnosis chair and experiencing it for yourself.
Cal Banyan: Brenda?
Brenda Titus: Yes.
Cal Banyan: I think that you’re talking about the universal script, the high load, low road script and we don’t want to have people go back and listen to that or watch that video to know what you’re talking about. So you need to kind of give like a brief description of what that’s about.
Brenda Titus: Absolutely. I’m so sorry; I cut so much out of what I thought it was going to talk about but, yes. So the high load, low road, universal script, so preview of some of the things that I was talking about. So the high load, low road is literally, your client is standing at the fork in the road of their life. They’ve got to make some important decisions. So they’re going to keep doing what they’ve doing or they’re going to make some changes in their life. As the hypnotist, the hypnotist walks the client through. If they were to keep doing what they’ve been doing, like as if they hadn’t ever come and seen you for sessions, they were going to keep coming and doing that, what’s their life going to look like? A year down the road, maybe 5 years down the road, even 10 years so they can really experience, “Oh my gosh, what can my life be like if I just keep going along as I’ve been doing?”
Then the hypnotist takes them up the high road to see, well if you start making the changes or I should say when you start making the changes that you are here to make as a client, when you start making those changes, look at what you can do in your life and I have to tell you, Cal, to really solidify for me in using this kind of script and really advancing people and having them think about the best that you could happen or the worse that could happen and letting them really experience that even just through direct suggestion and get them started, it really turns their eyes around into, oh my gosh, into stopping and thinking about maybe it’s not a big deal for today what I’m doing with my life and some of the decisions that I’m making. But if I expand that out to a year from now or five years from now or even 10 years from now, what are the ramifications of all of that.
Literally, there are elements to what I experienced in direct suggestion that I don’t think I’ll ever forget because it was that clear and solid of a, “Oh my gosh, I’m never going back to do such and such behavior or such and such attitude.” And you can really experience that for yourself and so I really encourage people, like I said, experience what it’s like to be a client because that way you can understand what your clients are really going through and it’s something that we talked about all the time that to really truly experience it, it makes a huge, huge difference.
So that’s really what I want to share for this episode, especially, is that really taking that step to become a client so that you can understand the process, understand what your clients are going through, have compassion for what they’re going through in taking the steps to come and see you, taking the steps to decide to make these changes and then really understanding this process from the inside out by experiencing it for yourself. It can help you become a better hypnotist, both by getting out of your own way and overcoming any rocks that you have to doing the work but also to literally experience being in their shoes and experiencing what they’re experiencing so that you can anticipate better what your clients are going to bring to the table each week when they come to see you. What do you think about that, Cal?
Cal Banyan: Well, I think this is important topic. I’ve got two things I would say real quick, let me just do this. I’ll save the other one for the next podcast. When you use scripts like the high road, low road script, it goes beyond normal regular classical direct suggestion because the high road, low road script is actually an age progression script and it does something that 99% of most direct suggestions can do and that’s create insight. When you create insight, then you can do a segue that embeds direct suggestion into the insights making them permanent. You heard Brenda talking about, I see there were behaviors that I would never do again, so it tells Stephanie she is doing it right. All right, wrap it up.
Brenda Titus: Thank you so much, Cal. This is why I like to talk about these things with you because I’ve so many questions that I experience and you hit it right on the head and it’s exactly what I was thinking and exactly it is that we develop these insights through doing this and I definitely encourage people. There are so many resources out there that are freely available to you, both on the podcast, as well as on CalBanyan.com to learn more about that universal script. If you’re going to the convention, go.
I might actually go to his session on the universal script again just to solidify because I didn’t use it as much as I do now because I’ve really understood now the incredible difference that you can make for people and I think you hit it right on the head talking about it being an insight driven age progression type of work and I’m so excited to be able to talk to all of you about this, so stick with us next week. We’re going to talk further about this process and we’re going to hit some things about working with age regression and forgiveness and I’m going to have some more questions because I experience some things that I want to have Cal help me understand so that I can continue to be a better hypnotist and so that you all can be better hypnotists as well, really grow your business, your practice and really help make incredible differences in their lives. So we’ll be back next to continue this process.
Cal Banyan: All right. Thank you very much. It’s time to wrap it up. Let me just say, I invite you to check into my upcoming courses. I have a course coming up in July, starting July 14th, another certification course coming up October 13. These are 10-day certification courses. It’s 5 days then two days off, then 5days and you watch these videos, listen to these videos and each one is like the typical iceberg in class when you go into so much more depth and I just think I know you’re going to be amazed. So that’s it for today. Cal Banyan, signing off.