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Hypnosis Training Video #372: Cal Banyan Celebrates 18 Years of Full Time Practice of Hypnosis and Hypnotherapy; Discover How He Did It (Transcription)

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Hey everybody, Cal Banyan here, on Cal Banyan’s Hypnosis etc. I’m so glad to have you back for another “all Cal” episode.  As you know, here in Hypnosis Etc. we talk about hypnosis, hypnotherapy, hypnosis news, anything related to hypnosis. Hey, if you haven’t already gone there, go to our fan page on Facebook. It’s,  all one word, hypnosisetc, and that’s where the conversation keeps going on.  Also if you would like to get a complete list of each one of these podcasts, a list of the titles, each one clickable. You click that title and you know what happens?  A video plays because we’ve got hundreds of these for you, just like an encyclopedia of hypnosis and hypnotherapy.

Oh, so who am I? In case you don’t know, I’m the CEO and founder of Cal Banyan Hypnosis Center Banyan Hypnosis Center here in Tustin, California. I’m the developer of 5-PATH® hypnotherapy system 7th Path Self- hypnosis(R), a mind, body, spirit for hypnosis and all around authority on hypnosis and I’ve done, I put out like, at current time right now, I put out a new video either by myself or one of our co-hosts every stinking week. This is gonna be like 360 or 70 it’s just amazing. I think if I knew I was gonna be doing this for so long, I might not even have started, that’s not true.

Alright, upcoming courses, for you folks who are watching this in 2015, 2025, 2245, if my courses are still going on in the future, you can always get the schedule on or perhaps even

Now, let’s see here, Week of Power coming up in May, May 4th to the 10th – 7 days, it’s for all you folks out there who are already certified and then, we’ve got the NGH approved Banyan Hypnosis center Hypnosis and Hypnotherapy certification course and that’s July 14th to the 25th, 2014. And you know what, there is always that I’ve seen so far, thefuture could change, but, right now and as usual, we have discounts for early registration.

Now what are we going to do today?  Happy Anniversary to me this month, my wife and I have been full time in the hypnosis business for eighteen years, that’s right, that means we’re all grown up, we’re of legal age in the world of hypnosis, we’ve  been doing it for eighteen years.  We’ve seen thousands of clients in our center, thousands and thousands of sessions, we’ve taught hypnotherapists, we’ve certified trainers. Let me tell you just a little bit of the story of the hypnosis center and give you some insider tips.

So it started in a land not so far away, Los Angeles, California I was born. That’s the long version I’m gonna speed up a lot. When I was eighteen, well actually, seventeen, I signed up to join the United States Air Force.  While I was in the Air Force, I took my very first college course and that was Psychology and the professor had a common interest with me. You see, my uncle, my grandmother’s brother, I guess that’s a grand uncle, was interested in hypnosis and he was what we call, a lay hypnotist and even back as far as the 50s and 60s, he was doing all kinds of hypnosis stuff, but, just kind of as a hobby, but, as a result, most of the people, adults in my family have been hypnotized by my uncle and so what’s that got to do with anything?  He never hypnotized me, he didn’t train me in hypnosis, but, I grew up in a family where hypnosis was not all that weird. So I always had this kind of interest in hypnosis, but I never really did anything about it until I met this professor in college when I was taking psychology while I was in the Air Force, and he had an interest in hypnosis and he said, if you’re interested on how to learn how to hypnotize, gave me a list of some books. By golly, I got those books, I started reading them and before you know it, I was hypnotizing my friends and this was around 1976, ’77, in that period of time. And I was now in the tradition of my uncle, a hobby hypnotist.

Now we move forward in time, I got out of the Air Force, I met a wonderful lady who becomes my wife, Maureen Banyan and we decide we’re gonna relocate from the Orange County/ Los Angeles area, move to Minnesota, cause we thought one day it would be nice to have kids and we thought raising kids in the Midwest will be perfect.  We moved up there and I met a fellow, Dr. Allen Fannin and here’s an interesting thing, I mean I was just a high school graduate, I had a couple college courses in the Air Force but I wasn’t really an academic type. I never really… I don’t know. I thought about going to college, but it wasn’t something that I expected to do. I met Dr. Allen Fannin, who was a psychologist. We hit it off great. It was really important in my development as a hypnotist because as I was befriended by this psychologist, I thought, “You know what? I’m just about as smart as this guy. Maybe I could be a psychologist, too.” Before you know it, I’m enrolled at the University of North Dakota in Grand Forks, North Dakota, in psychology. I’m thinking, “Wow. I’m going to learn all this cool stuff.” One of the things that Dr. Allen Fannin did was, he was interested in a lot of the stuff I was interested. That’s why we hit it off, and he befriended me, so, spiritual stuff, like meditation and then hypnosis.

He tried hypnotizing me once, but our relationship was one that I think I kind of got in the way of allowing him to hypnotize me. By that, I mean I just… actually, hindsight, I realize he didn’t do a good pre-talk, and I had misconceptions about hypnosis. That’s why it didn’t work. Anyway, still, the interest was there. I go, and I complete my bachelor’s degree in psychology. I’m kind of disappointed, because I thought if I went to college, I’d learn the insider stuff about hypnosis. But really, what had happened is hypnosis had been relegated to a footnote in the history of psychology, some time around Freud. Well then, I applied to and got into graduate school.

While I was in graduate school, I thought, “Ha, this is where they teach you about hypnotherapy and hypnosis and that kind of stuff.” I got through my master’s degree program, and still, a footnote in the history of psychology. I applied to and got into the PhD program, clinical psychology, and went all the way through that, completed all my coursework, did everything but my dissertation and an internship, and there was still nothing more about hypnosis. I heard that one of the professors did hypnosis, but he wasn’t really open to talking about it. So, as it turned out, I burnt out on psychology. I never completed my PhD, and just went to work at a master’s level in psychology. I went to work for Lutheran Social Services, did that for a little while, and just doing regular family therapy. That was awesome.

Then, what happened was… There’s this old saying. “If mama’s not happy, nobody’s happy.” Maureen, my lovely wife, intelligent wife, who I owe a lot to, because if it wasn’t for Maureen Banyan, then there would not have been a Banyan Hypnosis Center, because she was behind me 100%. Anyway, she wanted to live in a more metropolitan environment than Grand Forks, North Dakota. I loved it. Beautiful town, great people, but mama’s not happy, right?  So, we negotiated the northern suburbs of Minneapolis. We moved there, and it was a different state with different licensing requirements. See, when I was in Grand Forks, North Dakota, I covered four different counties. I knew the social workers. I knew the psychologists. I was totally plugged into the human service system. Moved to Minneapolis, and I didn’t know anyone. I didn’t know what to do.

I was able to just sit back and think, “You know, if I could do anything, what would I do?” I could go get re-licensed in Minnesota, master’s level. I could go back and finish my PhD work. I thought, “Let me look at this hypnosis thing one more time.” I did research. I found someone to study under. I became certified, and that was March 1996. 18 years ago. That’s why it’s my anniversary. I spoke to my wife after going through certification, and I said, “I think we could do this. I think that we could have a hypnosis center.” This is just one way that Maureen was very important in the development of the center. She backed me 100%. We figured out a budget, and I did all the research. I was reading all the books, watching all the videos, listening to audio, getting ready, and we opened the hypnosis center.

It wasn’t the Banyan Hypnosis Center at the time, because I didn’t want it to be about me. I wanted to create an environment like I worked in at the Lutheran Social Services in Grand Forks. It was a wonderful environment, where you had peers that you could talk to, get input from. You can get supervision, and I thought, “I want to create a center like that.” So, we found this location. It was in a small strip mall by a busy highway. It was 20 feet by 100 feet, so, 2000 square feet. It had four walls. We went in there, designed the hypnosis center from scratch. We had three offices, receiving area, two video viewing rooms where clients can come in and watch a video about hypnosis, and then some other storage and office type space.

We built it out, got it done, opened the door, and people started coming in. Not a lot, but they started. That was July of 1996. So, what happened was I was scared to death. I was scared to death all the time, because, yes, I was certified, yes, I was trained, and I’m a good student. I know how to study. I know how to organize things in my mind. But as clients came in, I was not really prepared to the level I wanted to be prepared. Why is this? It’s because a client would come in, and I would say, “What am I going to do? Am I going to do parts work? Am I going to do guided visualization? Am I going to do direct suggestion hypnosis? Am I going to do age regression hypnosis? Parts therapy? What am I going to do?” I felt like I was always just going by the seat of my pants.

That’s when it happened. I realized I needed to be more organized. It just so happened at the time, I began reading this book called, “The E-Myth”. I believe it’s by Gerber. “The E-Myth”. He changed everything for me, because I had a lot of training in psychology, I had significant training in hypnosis, but I did not have any business training. In the book, they talk about the most successful businesses are a system. This whole idea of a system is what revolutionized small businesses and made big businesses out of small businesses.

The example they use in the book is McDonald’s. Now, McDonald’s is not the best hamburger in the world, but it’s probably the number one selling hamburger in the world. Probably, the number one selling French fries. It’s probably the number one seller of Coca Cola products. Why is that? It was because very early on, an entrepreneur said, “What we have here is not just a hamburger joint. What we have here is a system.” He bought that system and went to town duplicating that system and improving it as it went along. That sent me out looking for a system. One of the things I had noticed right away… What’s one of the first things you do with a client? You’re going to give him the pre-talk, and then you’re going to hypnotize him. As I was looking at the work of some of the greats, and I was not really interested in doing these long prolonged hypnotic inductions, I was convinced by what I had studied and what I had seen that deep hypnosis could be reached in a minute or less.

I was reading and studying videos, and these teachers who taught these rapid inductions kind of implied that if I could not get someone into deep hypnosis, somnambulism, Harry Arons stages four, five, and six, then there was something wrong with me. I knew there was nothing wrong with me. I was a good student, as I said before. So, I said, “I need a system that will reliably get people into a deep state of hypnosis, convince them that they’re in hypnosis, and then utilize the most powerful techniques available to the hypnotist.” As I started doing the research, I was very heavily influenced by some of the great people in hypnosis in the modern day. Among them are Gil Boyne and his techniques, often the way they were taught by Jerry Kein. There’s Charles Tebbetts, Harry Arons, Dave Elman. Richard Harte was important to me in my development as a hypnotist. Most importantly the development of 5-PATH®, Five Phase Advanced Transformational Hypnosis.

What I did was, I took the most powerful techniques available to the hypnotist and arranged them in an order, such that they increased the probability of success of each phase. So, Phase One is preparation, testing, and convincing. Doing all the preparation necessary, so that any normal person, anyone with normal intelligence, mentally healthy, can go quickly into a deep state of hypnosis. They can then be convinced that they’re in hypnosis. They can be tested that they’re in the proper level of hypnosis, which for the work we do is the deep level, stages four, five, and six. Then after that’s done, once you have somnambulism and a hopeful client, someone that knows that they’re hypnotized, you’re in a perfect situation to use one of the most powerful techniques, Phase Two, age regression. I added to that, age progression work, which goes to the cause of the problem, neutralizing the cause, and even transforming it from something negative, often times to something positive, causing us to experience through insight hyper suggestibility.

Then, we’re able to do a segue of those insights into hypnotic suggestions for what they came into that can last a lifetime. That’s followed by the Gestalt work. Now, this is highly influenced by Gil Boyne. He’s the one that I’m aware of that brought this Gestalt work, typically chair therapy, and it’s also taught by Jerry Kein, that you can get these insights. I use it predominantly as Phase Three, forgiveness of self. I mean, forgiveness of others, because anger towards other people can still hang us onto the problem. When we overcome that anger, we gain more insight, which allows us to segue once again through hyper suggestibility into getting more suggestions that ensure even more so that the suggestions given will last a lifetime.

Then, Phase Four, which is going to be the chance to do forgiveness of self. Because once we’ve cleared out the cause of the problem, once we’ve forgiven and cut loose those people who are most closely associated with the problem, then what’s left? Our contribution, if any, to the problem, it might be just that we hung onto it for so long. We can then do that forgiveness of self. We can get rid of guilt. We can get rid of anger at the self, those last few things that can hold us to that problem. The insights generated from that process, done right, creates a hyper state of suggestibility. We segue from that into the direct suggestion for what they came in for.

Now, these four things together, take care of the vast majority of clients, those who do not have a significant level of secondary gain. But for those that do have significant levels of secondary gain, we’ve got Phase Five, which is a particular kind of parts work that I designed, based on the mediation process. It’s specifically designed to remove secondary gain. So, we don’t want to work with secondary gain until we’ve eliminated the primary cause of the problem. Once that’s done, if the problem persists, I’ll show you how to check and make sure that it is caused by secondary gain. Then, we can move into parts mediation work.

Alright, so, 5-PATH® enabled me to teach these five phases. It would work with virtually any kind of client problem that would come in. It could be fear of heights. It could be a bad habit, like biting your nails. It could even be something like alcohol abuse. We could use the same system. When you use the same system for everything, you get good at the tools. You become confident and competent with using the tools within the system. Instant rapid inductions, Covert testing, Convincers, Age regression, Parts mediation, Forgiveness work, over and over again. OK?

This allowed us to easily work with just every issue that came in. The system allowed it to be easier to teach and easier to supervise my hypnotherapists that began to work for me at the center. Being able to teach these people, then led me to wanting to teach others, and I became certified at the National Guild of Hypnotists to become an instructor, and eventually, wrote the manuals that became NGH approved textbooks. So, when you take our NGH approved Banyan Hypnosis Certification Course, that means that the course and the textbooks we use are approved by the National Guild of Hypnotists. Upon graduation, you get our certification from our school, plus NGH certification.

Now, shortly after that, I was inspired to create, and I don’t talk a lot about this on the podcast because I like it to be the big surprise when you come into class, a very special unique form of self-hypnosis. It’s very special and very unique. It’s mind, body, and spirit, but it actually has the power to do the work that I mentioned in 5-PATH®, but to be able to do it in the privacy of your own mind. I’m going to teach you how to do that. You’re going to experience it in the class. After five years, we expanded from our 2000 square feet into the area next to us, where we had the classroom and our production facilities and things like that, to a 4000 square foot facility.

We built a new business model called, “The Banyan Star Business Model”. You can search for that, or maybe I’ll get a link down below. But, you can see how to copy what I’m doing. When you copy what I’m doing, you’re going to be able to get what I’m getting, and that is an affluent, prosperous hypnosis business that has steady cash flow. I can go on vacation, or Heaven forbid, I can get sick, and the money keeps coming in. We developed this business model that we teach and use today.

After 10 years in Minnesota and Minneapolis area, we relocated to Tustin, California. I’m originally from Los Angeles. Maureen and I lived in Orange County before we went to Minnesota. After 24 years of North Dakota and Minnesota, loved the people but got tired of the winters, and relocated back to Orange County, where we continue teaching, training people, coaching people. That’s something new. We now offer coaching to our graduates. Very selective, it’s not for everybody. If you take our course, ask about my coaching program. It’s one on one. It’s better than the internship. It’s better than the externship, and it’s the best way to do the most you can to ensure hypnosis success for your business.

Then, what we’re going to do in the future is we’re just going to continue improving what we do. We listen to you. When you say, “I want a podcast on such and such,” by golly, if it makes sense, we’re going to get you a video on that. When people say, “I wish you would do training materials on such and such,” by golly, if it makes sense, I’m going to do that. That’s why our training courses and our training materials are so popular, is because generally, it’s what you’ve requested, or it’s what I wish I would have had some time earlier in my career.

Alright, that’s it. Happy 18th anniversary to me and 18th anniversary to Maureen Banyan. Happy anniversary to everyone that’s been a part of this, either as a student, a client, or an employee at our center.  Alright, that’s it. Thank you so much for helping me celebrate my 18th anniversary. I won’t bring it up again, probably, until the 20th anniversary, or maybe the 25th, or maybe the 50th. Oh, boy. This will all be white by then. Won’t it? Alright, that’s it. You go out there. Help somebody with hypnosis. Help yourself with hypnosis. Just teach the world about hypnosis. This is Cal Banyan signing off.


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